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something unique. No longer does it mean susceptibility; it means, on the contrary, the preparedness to stand up
and fight even though one knew one was vulnerable. It
has to do with military valor which requires risking
one’s life, being fully exposed. The women were kept
covered because it meant they were shielded, not exposed to risk. The relationship of this manly nudity to
the nudity of the gods is also vital: the gods could be
Naked because they relied on themselves.
Writers of the Classical period eventually seemed
back at the custom and offered rationalizing explanations for an association whose significance had changed
from spiritual and rite to civic.82 The Greeks did
tifying hints of the sportsman. Almost Nude Girls Are Everywhere – Why Not In Naturism? features the sloth of the
Individuals of Sybaris,who saw the athletesof Krotondiggingup
the palaestra and wonderedwhy they did not hire workers
to performsuch menial jobs (Poliakoff[supran. 54] 12-13,
with fig. 13).
80 Aeschin. In Tim. 138; cited in M. Golden,
Homosexuality,"Phoenix 38 (1984) 319, who thinks slaves
were truly banned from entering the palaestra. For a
similar law in Crete, see Arist. Pol.
Naked Run And My Struggles With Body Image are mentionedtogether additionally as something normallyforeignto women:supra, text and n. 85.
from spiritual to civil, took place, e.g., in the theatre, or in
the polis, with the use of the lot.
not entirely understandthe origin or the development
of their nudity. Yet they had to clarify it, as a peculiarity that exemplified clearly and verified in action the difference between themselves
acutely aware. We’ve seen that they attributedthe
Source of fit nudity to the 15th Olympiad, in the
monumentalkouroi appearedin the seventh century.
But the custom spread slowly, and later, into
everydaylife. Such a gradualdevelopmentcan clarify
the statement of Thucydides (1.6)-repeated after by
Plato (Resp. 5.452a-e)-that athletic nudity had become universal in Greece "shortlybefore his time."
These writers were referringto the normalizationof
nudity in real life, to its civil worth,not to its
earliest appearancein religious ritual and artwork.
Thucydides viewed the custom of exercising in the
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phantly been supported at Athens shortly before his
time, after the Persian Wars. The launch of athletic nudity into the everyday life of the gymnasium
and palaestra was part of a "modern" way of life,
freer, easier, more democratic, based on Thucydides.
himself in preparation for military service. A Greek soldier must be in shape: he must be thin and muscular,
not portly and affluent.
Greeks-who announced their status and riches by
wearing luxurious garments that gave an impression
of elegance and authority."83
While Thucydides explains Greek nudity in the
Circumstance of democracy, Plato explains it as an effect of
the legitimate, rational manner of thinking of which the
Greeks were so proud.84 In a passage in which he clearly has the Spartan model in mind, Plato imagines
the scenario that would arise if girls were to have
If, then, we use the women for the same things as the
Guys, they must also be educated the same things. Now
fee and alive! It was simply wonderful to be bare and gymnasticwere givento the men. These two
Artwork, and what’s to do with war, must be assignedto
the women also, and they must be used in the same
Manners. Perhaps,comparedto what is habitual,many of
the things now being said would look ridiculousif they
the girls working out nude with the guys in the palaestras, not only the young ones, but even the old
ones, too, like the old men in the gymnasium who,
when they are wrinkledand not pleasantto the eye, all
would seem ridiculousin the presentstate of stuff. Well, since we’ve began to speak, we mustn’t be
Fearful of all the jokes-of whatever sort-the wits
might make if such a change took place in gymnastic,
But since we have begun to talk,
tiated society like that of ancient Greece attention must be
paid to an extensive assortment of evidence, from myths and philosophic utopias to anecdotes on the physical appearance,
movements,or dress associatedwith a particularstatus or